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Stop paying second mortgage - What happens next?

Author: Jessica Bennet
Community Mentor
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Posted on: 17th Sep, 2008 12:30am
If you're in financial hardship and you're not paying second mortgage for 150-180 days from the due date, the lender may foreclose your property or file a lawsuit and seize your personal assets. Read through the section below and find out what happens if you stop paying second mortgage.



What happens if I stop paying second mortgage?


If you're not paying your second mortgage, and your home is upside down (combined balance on 1st and 2nd loan exceeds the home value), the lender may not file a foreclosure. That's because he'll have to pay off the first loan before he intends to retrieve the money he has invested on the 2nd loan.

However, even if the second lender forecloses and sells the home for less than the balance on 1st and 2nd loans, the law may not require you to pay the difference or deficiency balance provided the second mortgage is a non-recourse loan. Moreover, certain states have anti-deficiency laws which prevent one from paying the deficient amount provided the second mortgage (such as the 20% of an 80/20 loan) is used to purchase a primary residence.

However, if the second mortgage is a recourse loan, and your state doesn't follow the anti-deficiency laws, the deficiency balance needs to be paid off. In case you don't pay the deficiency or if the lender doesn't foreclose at all, here's what may happen:



  • Judgment/garnishment: The lender may file a lawsuit in the local court and get a judgment order to collect the unpaid balance. He can come after your assets such as bank account funds. The lender may have your wages garnished. Wage garnishment is a legal process in which an individual's earnings are partly or wholly withheld by the employer (as per court order) for repayment of debt.


  • Charge-off: The lender may issue a second mortgage charge off and assign or sell off your debt to a collection agency (CA). The agency will then try to collect the loan payments by all means. If you don't make any payment, here's what the CA can do:


    1. Harassing calls/letters: The collection agency is likely to harass you with repeated phone calls or payment notices/letters. They may even call you at odd hours and disturb you at your workplace, though such practices are against the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (law which governs the practices of CAs).



    2. CA may file lawsuit: The CA may even sue you thereby leading you to legal hassles. They may even get a judgment order from the court and go for wage garnishment or seize your bank accounts.

      However, if your second mortgage debt is well past the Statute of Limitation (SOL), the collection agency cannot file a lawsuit. Even if they threaten to sue you after the SOL is over, send a cease and desist letter stating that your debt has crossed the SOL, so they shouldn't contact you any more. Still if they harass you for payments, file a complaint with the FTC or State Attorney General.

What to do if I can't pay second loan


Once your home is sold off at a foreclosure auction, the second mortgage debt or the deficiency balance on it will be considered as an unsecured loan which you can pay off in monthly installments. In case you can't afford to pay the deficiency balance in full, you may negotiate a settlement with the lender or the collection agency to whom the lender may have assigned/sold off your debt.

Paying your second mortgage will help you minimize the chances of getting hit with negative remarks on your credit report. You can thus avoid trashing your credit score and improve your chances of getting loans in future.
Posted on: 17th Sep, 2008 12:30 am
i have a 1st & 2nd mtg and i have requested a short sale. i am able to make my 1st mtg payment but i do not have the funds to make my 2nd mtg pymt. if i stop paying second mortgage what happens? can the 2nd lender foreclose on my house? and if not, what happens to the 2nd loan? if they charge off & put a lien on my house, then i will never be able to sale it because i owe more than the house it worth? any advice? also, if they charge off & put a lien on my house, can i then bk it?
what is the statue of limitation to collect a debt on a second mortgage if the company went BK and you had know one to pay.

Could they forclose on my home
Posted on: 14th Mar, 2010 03:14 pm
i have not paid my second loan for 15 month. but i have came to a agreement with my first loan ..what happens to my second one now?? i live in bakersfield ca
Posted on: 15th Mar, 2010 10:31 am
Hi Guest,

The statute of limitations in order to collect the second mortgage dues will vary from one state to another. You can contact an attorney and take his opinion in this regard.

Hi Mike,

You should contact your second mortgage lender and check out what they have done with your loan account. There are chances that the lender would have charged off your loan to a collection agency. You will have to deal with the collection agency.

Take care.
Posted on: 16th Mar, 2010 03:46 am
if i stopped paying on the 2nd..and it goes in to charge off..could it affect my current loan modification on my 1st that is in review status. both lenders are telling me that it can be denied
Posted on: 24th Mar, 2010 04:25 pm
I don't think that the charged off status of your second loan will affect your chances of getting a loan modification on your first loan. After the second loan is charged off, you will have to negotiate with the collection agency and pay it off.
Posted on: 25th Mar, 2010 03:58 am
Posted on: 26th Mar, 2010 07:48 am
hi matthew!

welcome to forums!

you should contact your lender immediately and apply for a deed in lieu of foreclosure as you want to get rid of the property. if the lender is convinced about your financial hardship, he would accept your application for a deed in lieu. however, though you would be able to get rid of the property, it would have a negative impact on your credit report and you would also be liable to pay off the second mortgage if the sale of the property does not satisfy it.

feel free to ask if you've further queries.

sussane
Posted on: 27th Mar, 2010 01:37 am
i just got a loan modification on my first mortgage of 416000.my second loan i owe 75000.i have tried to get a loan mod with them to no sucess.i have not paid them in 2 months.what will happen if i continue not to pay the mortgage.my house is woth less than both both loans. THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP
Posted on: 30th Mar, 2010 12:38 pm
If you do not pay the second mortgage dues, the lender will charge off the loan. A collection agency will then contact you and ask for the payments. The charge off will have a negative impact on your credit report. To know more about second mortgage charge off, check out the given page:
http://www.mortgagefit.com/know-how/secondloanchargeoff.html
Posted on: 31st Mar, 2010 02:23 am
hi, i have a question, what can happen if i quit paying my second mortgage? can a bank foreclose on a property (the second mortgage is not with the same lender as on my primary mortgage which is current and up to date). thanks for your time
Posted on: 03rd Apr, 2010 06:58 am
The second lender will have the rights to foreclose the property. However, second lenders do not generally do so as they will have to satisfy the first mortgage lender's dues. However, the second lender will definitely have the rights to charge off the loan. Once the lender sells your account to a collection agency, they'll contact you in order to recover the dues.
Posted on: 05th Apr, 2010 02:55 am
my house is worth 900k but i owe the 1st mtg of $1,030,000 (ing) and i owe chase (2nd mtg lender) $230,000 for a total of both liens of $1,260,000. i have filed for a chapter 7 bankruptcy as well on march 31st, 2010. chase has charged off the loan, what will happen if i do not work out a settlement with them? i want to stay in the home but they could foreclose on the property (i doubt they will since we owe way more than it's worth) but they still could technically. what is your recommended advice for moving forward and the best way to handle this situation? since i am claiming chapter 7 does that help the situation any? thanks!
Posted on: 07th Apr, 2010 07:09 am
I guess Chase had charged off the loan prior to your bankruptcy filing. as you've now filed bankruptcy, the collection agency will not come after you for the debts. Moreover, as the debts will get discharged, they won't be able to come after you for the payments. As far as your first mortgage is concerned, you should reaffirm it and make the payments on time.
Posted on: 08th Apr, 2010 02:07 am
Hi everyone;
I filed for Chapter 7 and did not reaffirm my second because the house value will barely cover the first. For the first, I did not reaffirm either; instead I checked the option that allows me to continue paying as usual but did not choose to abandon the agreement as I did with the second. I actually just received a Workout with BofA on my first and have been paying as agreed. My bankruptcy was fully discharged which means my personal liability to pay the second has been removed. Green Tree holds the second and has been calling non stop. I sent them a cease and desist and told them to reach me by mail. What should I do? Will the foreclose when the 1st Leinholder is underwater? They will not receive anything if they foreclose.

Second is approx $90k.

Help?

Ed
Posted on: 10th Apr, 2010 01:46 pm
We filed chapter 7 in 08. We did not include our home in the bankruptcy.
They did however do a charge off on both the first and second. We are keeping our home but the 2nd mortgage takes its toll on us financially every month. We have not reaffirmed either the first or the second. We owe a great deal more than the house is worth. is there anyway to get rid of the second and keep our house?
Posted on: 11th Apr, 2010 10:34 am
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