Posted on: 17th Sep, 2008 12:30am
If you're in financial hardship and you're not paying second mortgage for 150-180 days from the due date, the lender may foreclose your property or file a lawsuit and seize your personal assets. Read through the section below and find out what happens if you stop paying second mortgage.
What happens if I stop paying second mortgage?
If you're not paying your second mortgage, and your home is upside down (combined balance on 1st and 2nd loan exceeds the home value), the lender may not file a foreclosure. That's because he'll have to pay off the first loan before he intends to retrieve the money he has invested on the 2nd loan.
However, even if the second lender forecloses and sells the home for less than the balance on 1st and 2nd loans, the law may not require you to pay the difference or deficiency balance provided the second mortgage is a non-recourse loan. Moreover, certain states have anti-deficiency laws which prevent one from paying the deficient amount provided the second mortgage (such as the 20% of an 80/20 loan) is used to purchase a primary residence.
However, if the second mortgage is a recourse loan, and your state doesn't follow the anti-deficiency laws, the deficiency balance needs to be paid off. In case you don't pay the deficiency or if the lender doesn't foreclose at all, here's what may happen:
However, even if the second lender forecloses and sells the home for less than the balance on 1st and 2nd loans, the law may not require you to pay the difference or deficiency balance provided the second mortgage is a non-recourse loan. Moreover, certain states have anti-deficiency laws which prevent one from paying the deficient amount provided the second mortgage (such as the 20% of an 80/20 loan) is used to purchase a primary residence.
However, if the second mortgage is a recourse loan, and your state doesn't follow the anti-deficiency laws, the deficiency balance needs to be paid off. In case you don't pay the deficiency or if the lender doesn't foreclose at all, here's what may happen:
- Judgment/garnishment: The lender may file a lawsuit in the local court and get a judgment order to collect the unpaid balance. He can come after your assets such as bank account funds. The lender may have your wages garnished. Wage garnishment is a legal process in which an individual's earnings are partly or wholly withheld by the employer (as per court order) for repayment of debt.
- Charge-off: The lender may issue a second mortgage charge off and assign or sell off your debt to a collection agency (CA). The agency will then try to collect the loan payments by all means. If you don't make any payment, here's what the CA can do:
- Harassing calls/letters: The collection agency is likely to harass you with repeated phone calls or payment notices/letters. They may even call you at odd hours and disturb you at your workplace, though such practices are against the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act (law which governs the practices of CAs).
- CA may file lawsuit: The CA may even sue you thereby leading you to legal hassles. They may even get a judgment order from the court and go for wage garnishment or seize your bank accounts.
However, if your second mortgage debt is well past the Statute of Limitation (SOL), the collection agency cannot file a lawsuit. Even if they threaten to sue you after the SOL is over, send a cease and desist letter stating that your debt has crossed the SOL, so they shouldn't contact you any more. Still if they harass you for payments, file a complaint with the FTC or State Attorney General.
What to do if I can't pay second loan
Once your home is sold off at a foreclosure auction, the second mortgage debt or the deficiency balance on it will be considered as an unsecured loan which you can pay off in monthly installments. In case you can't afford to pay the deficiency balance in full, you may negotiate a settlement with the lender or the collection agency to whom the lender may have assigned/sold off your debt.
Paying your second mortgage will help you minimize the chances of getting hit with negative remarks on your credit report. You can thus avoid trashing your credit score and improve your chances of getting loans in future.
Paying your second mortgage will help you minimize the chances of getting hit with negative remarks on your credit report. You can thus avoid trashing your credit score and improve your chances of getting loans in future.
Posted on: 17th Sep, 2008 12:30 am
i have a 1st & 2nd mtg and i have requested a short sale. i am able to make my 1st mtg payment but i do not have the funds to make my 2nd mtg pymt. if i stop paying second mortgage what happens? can the 2nd lender foreclose on my house? and if not, what happens to the 2nd loan? if they charge off & put a lien on my house, then i will never be able to sale it because i owe more than the house it worth? any advice? also, if they charge off & put a lien on my house, can i then bk it?
i have a first and second and a home equity loan. what happens if the second just informed me that it was paid in full. ? i have no idea how this happened? the first is going to approve a loan modification and then i wil be able to get a loan reduction on the second. i just informed the second and they said it was paid in full. citi mortgage won't give me how it was paid.....
Hi JAN!
Welcome to forums!
If the second loan was paid in full, then you should ask the lender to give you a lien release certificate. You will remain liable only for the 1st mortgage. You can apply to the 1st lender for a loan modification. If the lender is convinced that you're facing hardship in paying off the loan, then he will agree to your request.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Welcome to forums!
If the second loan was paid in full, then you should ask the lender to give you a lien release certificate. You will remain liable only for the 1st mortgage. You can apply to the 1st lender for a loan modification. If the lender is convinced that you're facing hardship in paying off the loan, then he will agree to your request.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Hi this is regarding our second mortgage, we have not been able to make payments for he past 4 months, our first mortgage is current and balance owed is little under 107000, our second mortgage is with a another bank and balance is $40000, can a bank still try to pursue a forclosure? I know they would have to buy out our first mortgage first, is this likely to happen? thank you for your help
Hi hildika!
Welcome to forums!
The second lender can foreclose the property. However, there are high chances that the second lender will charge off the mortgage to a collection agency.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Welcome to forums!
The second lender can foreclose the property. However, there are high chances that the second lender will charge off the mortgage to a collection agency.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Jessica,
I have 4 years to pay my first mortgage off. I had a second mortgage for an investment 3 years ago ($125,000 a 30 year loan); the investment went south and the business went bankrupt. Is there anyway that I could get the loan reduced? I'd like to try to pay off half of the loan and have the other half forgotten. Is that possible???
I have 4 years to pay my first mortgage off. I had a second mortgage for an investment 3 years ago ($125,000 a 30 year loan); the investment went south and the business went bankrupt. Is there anyway that I could get the loan reduced? I'd like to try to pay off half of the loan and have the other half forgotten. Is that possible???
Hi Steve,
It will depend upon the lender whether or not he will forgive half of the mortgage dues. You should contact your lender and check out his opinion in this matter. If you want to save the property, then you can contact the lender and apply for a loan modification.
Thanks
It will depend upon the lender whether or not he will forgive half of the mortgage dues. You should contact your lender and check out his opinion in this matter. If you want to save the property, then you can contact the lender and apply for a loan modification.
Thanks
I have a first with bank of america and they haven't started the foreclosure process, but they will soon. My second for $40,000 is with Citi mortgage. I am about $70,000 upside down on the property and I live in Oregon. Citi mortgage has a collection agency that filed in the courts and I have to respond within 30 days or they win. But I don't know what to respond as they are right I am walking away from the property. So if I don't respond and they automatically win, can they seize my bank account? And if I do respond I have no idea what I can say in my defense to make them stop. What should I do?
Hi kpd,
The lender will have to file a lawsuit and get a judgment against you in order to garnish your bank account. Unless they get the judgment, they won't be able to garnish your account. You can contact an attorney and he will be able to guide you in drafting the reply to the summons.
The lender will have to file a lawsuit and get a judgment against you in order to garnish your bank account. Unless they get the judgment, they won't be able to garnish your account. You can contact an attorney and he will be able to guide you in drafting the reply to the summons.
My 1st and 2nd are with 2 different lenders. I currently owe $420,000.00 on my 1st and $88,000.00 on my 2nd. If I stop paying the 2nd mtg. what are the chances that they will just charge it off? The house is only worth $362,000.00-382,000.00. Also, IF they charge it off, can they try to buy out the 1st and foreclose onm y house in the future if the value should increase?
i have a loan wiyh a ballon 35000. dew the loaner dosent want to renew the contract and is threatening to take property what can i do. :P
hi!
welcome to forums!
to cheezedogg,
if you stop paying the second mortgage, there are high chances that the lender will charge off the mortgage and assign it to a collection agency. normally, the collection agency doesn't foreclose the property. they will, rather, harass you for the payments.
to bud,
you can contact some other bank and refinance the mortgage with them and pay off your existing lender in full. the existing lender cannot stop you from refinancing a loan.
feel free to ask if you've further queries.
sussane
welcome to forums!
to cheezedogg,
if you stop paying the second mortgage, there are high chances that the lender will charge off the mortgage and assign it to a collection agency. normally, the collection agency doesn't foreclose the property. they will, rather, harass you for the payments.
to bud,
you can contact some other bank and refinance the mortgage with them and pay off your existing lender in full. the existing lender cannot stop you from refinancing a loan.
feel free to ask if you've further queries.
sussane
Very informative post. Thanks for taking the time to share your view with us.
I have a first with Bank of america for 200k and a 2nd for 60k but my house is only worth about 180 to 200. I called BOA and they told me they couldnt settle or help on my second and only can do a short sale. I want to to keep the house if I continue to stop making payments on my second will I lose my house? My first is current.
Hi jjff!
Welcome to forums!
If you stop making payments on your second mortgage, the lender has the rights to foreclose the property. However, the second lenders normally don't foreclose as they will be liable to the first mortgage lender in full. In such a situation, the lender will charge off the mortgage and assign it to a collection agency.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Welcome to forums!
If you stop making payments on your second mortgage, the lender has the rights to foreclose the property. However, the second lenders normally don't foreclose as they will be liable to the first mortgage lender in full. In such a situation, the lender will charge off the mortgage and assign it to a collection agency.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Hi,
My case is: my first mortgage is 80k and my second is 250k...in Florida.
If I go bankrupcy will the second mortgage be eliminated ?
thanks,
Victor
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My case is: my first mortgage is 80k and my second is 250k...in Florida.
If I go bankrupcy will the second mortgage be eliminated ?
thanks,
Victor
[Email address deleted as per forum rules. Thanks.]