Posted on: 07th Dec, 2006 03:49pm
If you haven't paid your mortgage for 6 months or you've been through a foreclosure or short sale wherein you couldn't pay off the second loan after getting rid of the first, your lender is likely to issue a second mortgage charge-off.
What is second mortgage charge-off all about?
If your second mtg lender intends to charge off the loan, it means he's declaring the debt as uncollectible. So, the lender will no longer collect payments from you. But this doesn't mean that you don't owe the money. The lender reports the debt as a loss when he files a Profit and Loss Statement (for his company) with the Internal Revenue Service. He sells off or assigns the debt to a collection agency that'll collect the payments on his behalf. So, your debt hasn't been canceled or forgiven.
When a second loan is charged off after a foreclosure/short sale on the property, the mortgage is considered as an unsecured debt since the collateral has been sold off already.
When a second loan is charged off after a foreclosure/short sale on the property, the mortgage is considered as an unsecured debt since the collateral has been sold off already.
What happens after a second loan charge-off?
When a second loan is charged off and sold to a collection agency (CA), it's essential that you negotiate an alternative payment plan with the CA. In case you can't meet up with the monthly loan payments, you may settle the debt for an amount less than what you owe to the CA. Otherwise, you may face any of the consequences explained below:
However, when the second mtg debt is settled, you may have to pay tax on the balance forgiven by the lender. This is because the balance forgiven or canceled debt is considered as your income. But you can avoid paying the tax provided you qualify for mortgage debt forgiveness.
- CA may sue you: If you don't make any payment towards the mortgage, the CA may file a lawsuit against you during the SOL (Statute of Limitation) period. Once you decide to settle the debt, make sure you get a settlement agreement in writing from the CA.
- Property retains the 2nd lien: The charge-off does not remove the second lien from your property unless you pay it off.
However, when the second mtg debt is settled, you may have to pay tax on the balance forgiven by the lender. This is because the balance forgiven or canceled debt is considered as your income. But you can avoid paying the tax provided you qualify for mortgage debt forgiveness.
Will I get 1099-C Form after a second loan charge-off?
Since a charge-off doesn't imply cancellation of debt, therefore the lender won't send you a 1099-C Form. Such a form is sent only when a lender cancels your debt and reports it to the IRS as a tax loss.
Can I remove second loan charge-off from credit report?
You can have the charge-off removed from your report only when you settle or pay off the account in full. Unless you make payments towards the account, the negative item will reflect on your credit report for 7 years. After you settle or pay the charged-off account in full, request the collection agency to update the account status as "Settled charge-off" or "Paid in full" respectively. However, a "Paid in full" is certainly better than a "Settled charge-off" status on your credit report. Know more on how to remove charge-off from credit report.
When a second mortgage is charged off, it brings down your credit score by 50 points or more depending upon the other negative items you may have on your report. The best way to get rid of this negative item is to pay down the debt asap and negotiate with the CA to update your account status accordingly.
When a second mortgage is charged off, it brings down your credit score by 50 points or more depending upon the other negative items you may have on your report. The best way to get rid of this negative item is to pay down the debt asap and negotiate with the CA to update your account status accordingly.
Posted on: 07th Dec, 2006 03:49 pm
Our 2nd mortgage with beneficial was an original 15,000.00 loan. It has escalated to 32,000.00. They are going to charge off this month. My husband is disabled & 1 child disabled. The loan is only in his name. But my name is on the deed. I understand a 1099 we will receive. What happens to the charge off. with a lien against the home. Will it come off in 7 years? Thanks, Melissa
In Iowa,what is the Statute of Limitations after a sheriff sale to collect on a 2nd mortgage
hi mikaelj!
welcome to forums!
as the second mortgage is a written contract, the sol (statute of limitations) is for 10 years.
feel free to ask if you've further queries.
sussane
welcome to forums!
as the second mortgage is a written contract, the sol (statute of limitations) is for 10 years.
feel free to ask if you've further queries.
sussane
most of my debt was written-off in bankruptcy last dec (12/2009) ... i tried (unsuccessfully) to reaffirm with both my mortgages ... the 1st is current (i owe $198K) ... the 2nd is going on 3 months delinquint (i owe aprox $96K) ... the property is worth aprox $295K ... the dude from the 2nd (1st tenn) is saying the loan is about to be charged off ... he assures me that when that happens it is extremely unlikely that 1st tenn will foreclose, he said that they will work to set-up new terms to pay back the non-interest loan ... im scared they will foreclose ... are my concerns valid?
Hi Mike!
Welcome to forums!
If the second mortgage has been discharged in your bankruptcy filing, then you are not personally liable for paying off the dues. Even though the lender charges off the dues, I don't think the collection agency will be able to collect the dues from you. However, the first mortgage lender can foreclose the property.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Welcome to forums!
If the second mortgage has been discharged in your bankruptcy filing, then you are not personally liable for paying off the dues. Even though the lender charges off the dues, I don't think the collection agency will be able to collect the dues from you. However, the first mortgage lender can foreclose the property.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
My 2nd with Chase for 170k has been discharged. the house was foreclosed by the 1st lender. On my credit report the debt shows the Collection Agency, Bureau of Recovery LLC , as the creditor so this means Chase actually sold the debt to the CA? I've made 8 k in payments to the CA so far over the last 2 year in monthly payments just to stay our of court.
What I'd like to know is how much should I offer the CA to settle? Did the CA pay 7 cents on the dollar for the 170 debt? What is a good % to offer?
What I'd like to know is how much should I offer the CA to settle? Did the CA pay 7 cents on the dollar for the 170 debt? What is a good % to offer?
Hi timclifton,
You should offer such an amount to the CA which you can afford to pay. You should negotiate in such a way that the CA accepts your request and settles the debts for you. However, the facts remains that it will be CA's discretion as to whether or not they will accept your request.
Thanks
You should offer such an amount to the CA which you can afford to pay. You should negotiate in such a way that the CA accepts your request and settles the debts for you. However, the facts remains that it will be CA's discretion as to whether or not they will accept your request.
Thanks
AZ has a "no-deficiency" statute in their state laws. We had a second mortgage on a foreclosure and it was "charged-off." No suit was ever filed by second lienholder and it is a charge off on my credit. It is 21 months old. Is there any recourse for 2nd Lienholder? State statutes say they must file a suit within ninety days after foreclosure? Thanks
Hi caaaam!
Welcome to forums!
As the second mortgage has been charged off by the lender, he won't come after you in order to recover the dues. However, the collection agency to whom your account has been sold off can come after you for the dues.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Welcome to forums!
As the second mortgage has been charged off by the lender, he won't come after you in order to recover the dues. However, the collection agency to whom your account has been sold off can come after you for the dues.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
IF I CONTINUE PAYING MY FIRST ON TIME AS AGREED PER CHAPTER 7 WILL THE BANK BE ABLE TO FORECLOSE ON THE SECOND SINCE IT WAS DISCHARGED IN THE BANKRUPTCY DUE TO THEM NOT SHOWING
Welcome linda,
If the mortgage was discharged in your bankruptcy filing, it means that you're not personally liable for paying the dues. However, the lender can foreclose the property. But in case he does so, he will be liable for paying the dues of the first mortgage lender before satisfying his own dues.
If the mortgage was discharged in your bankruptcy filing, it means that you're not personally liable for paying the dues. However, the lender can foreclose the property. But in case he does so, he will be liable for paying the dues of the first mortgage lender before satisfying his own dues.
My second mortgage charged of my loan, giving no notice and while in the middle of loan reconstruction process all agreed payments were made on time up until the charge off.. In addition my first mortgage is still working on the final stages of reconstruction. Both loans have been in the reconstruction process for two tears now with all payments being submitted on time as agreed, What can I do about this situation one is charged off and the other is not???
Hi lucy!
Welcome to forums!
You should contact your second mortgage lender and negotiate with him so that he calls back the account from collections. If he agrees to do it, then you can negotiate with him for a payment plan to pay off the dues.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Welcome to forums!
You should contact your second mortgage lender and negotiate with him so that he calls back the account from collections. If he agrees to do it, then you can negotiate with him for a payment plan to pay off the dues.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
If my 2nd mortgage is charged off, can they still foreclose on me at some point in time? or if they sell it to a collection agency, can the collection agency foreclose on me?
Welcome mikeef,
Once the mortgage is charged off, the lender will not come after you for the dues. It is the collection agency who can contact you for the dues. The collection agencies can always sue you in order to collect their debts.
Once the mortgage is charged off, the lender will not come after you for the dues. It is the collection agency who can contact you for the dues. The collection agencies can always sue you in order to collect their debts.
my 2009 short sale is being reported as a deed in lieu of foreclosure. is that correct? or is my 2nd mortgage charge off affecting that terminology? thank-you!