Posted on: 07th Dec, 2006 03:49pm
If you haven't paid your mortgage for 6 months or you've been through a foreclosure or short sale wherein you couldn't pay off the second loan after getting rid of the first, your lender is likely to issue a second mortgage charge-off.
What is second mortgage charge-off all about?
If your second mtg lender intends to charge off the loan, it means he's declaring the debt as uncollectible. So, the lender will no longer collect payments from you. But this doesn't mean that you don't owe the money. The lender reports the debt as a loss when he files a Profit and Loss Statement (for his company) with the Internal Revenue Service. He sells off or assigns the debt to a collection agency that'll collect the payments on his behalf. So, your debt hasn't been canceled or forgiven.
When a second loan is charged off after a foreclosure/short sale on the property, the mortgage is considered as an unsecured debt since the collateral has been sold off already.
When a second loan is charged off after a foreclosure/short sale on the property, the mortgage is considered as an unsecured debt since the collateral has been sold off already.
What happens after a second loan charge-off?
When a second loan is charged off and sold to a collection agency (CA), it's essential that you negotiate an alternative payment plan with the CA. In case you can't meet up with the monthly loan payments, you may settle the debt for an amount less than what you owe to the CA. Otherwise, you may face any of the consequences explained below:
However, when the second mtg debt is settled, you may have to pay tax on the balance forgiven by the lender. This is because the balance forgiven or canceled debt is considered as your income. But you can avoid paying the tax provided you qualify for mortgage debt forgiveness.
- CA may sue you: If you don't make any payment towards the mortgage, the CA may file a lawsuit against you during the SOL (Statute of Limitation) period. Once you decide to settle the debt, make sure you get a settlement agreement in writing from the CA.
- Property retains the 2nd lien: The charge-off does not remove the second lien from your property unless you pay it off.
However, when the second mtg debt is settled, you may have to pay tax on the balance forgiven by the lender. This is because the balance forgiven or canceled debt is considered as your income. But you can avoid paying the tax provided you qualify for mortgage debt forgiveness.
Will I get 1099-C Form after a second loan charge-off?
Since a charge-off doesn't imply cancellation of debt, therefore the lender won't send you a 1099-C Form. Such a form is sent only when a lender cancels your debt and reports it to the IRS as a tax loss.
Can I remove second loan charge-off from credit report?
You can have the charge-off removed from your report only when you settle or pay off the account in full. Unless you make payments towards the account, the negative item will reflect on your credit report for 7 years. After you settle or pay the charged-off account in full, request the collection agency to update the account status as "Settled charge-off" or "Paid in full" respectively. However, a "Paid in full" is certainly better than a "Settled charge-off" status on your credit report. Know more on how to remove charge-off from credit report.
When a second mortgage is charged off, it brings down your credit score by 50 points or more depending upon the other negative items you may have on your report. The best way to get rid of this negative item is to pay down the debt asap and negotiate with the CA to update your account status accordingly.
When a second mortgage is charged off, it brings down your credit score by 50 points or more depending upon the other negative items you may have on your report. The best way to get rid of this negative item is to pay down the debt asap and negotiate with the CA to update your account status accordingly.
Posted on: 07th Dec, 2006 03:49 pm
Our 2nd mortgage with beneficial was an original 15,000.00 loan. It has escalated to 32,000.00. They are going to charge off this month. My husband is disabled & 1 child disabled. The loan is only in his name. But my name is on the deed. I understand a 1099 we will receive. What happens to the charge off. with a lien against the home. Will it come off in 7 years? Thanks, Melissa
My father's house was foreclosed on and the bank only sold his first mortgage. Is he still responsible for his 2nd mortgage or will the bank sell that too along with the first one?
Hi Marshall,
If your property has gone through a short sale, then it should be reported as short sale and not a deed in lieu of foreclosure. A charge off will not affect the terminology. You should dispute the listing with your credit bureaus and update the status.
To coreyp,
If there was a second mortgage on the property, then the second mortgage lender will be able to come after your father to recover his dues.
Thanks
If your property has gone through a short sale, then it should be reported as short sale and not a deed in lieu of foreclosure. A charge off will not affect the terminology. You should dispute the listing with your credit bureaus and update the status.
To coreyp,
If there was a second mortgage on the property, then the second mortgage lender will be able to come after your father to recover his dues.
Thanks
hi,
i had a foreclosure last year and the collection agency is sending me the bill for my second mortgage. was the original lender sold it to collection agency? do i still have to pay for the second loan after my house got forclose?
i had a foreclosure last year and the collection agency is sending me the bill for my second mortgage. was the original lender sold it to collection agency? do i still have to pay for the second loan after my house got forclose?
Hi Gil!
Welcome to forums!
The second lender may have sold off the debt account to the collection agency. You can send a debt validation letter to the collection agency in order to find out whether or not they own the account. If they validate the debt, you will have to pay off the dues. Though your property got foreclosed, you'll be liable for the mortgage payments.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Welcome to forums!
The second lender may have sold off the debt account to the collection agency. You can send a debt validation letter to the collection agency in order to find out whether or not they own the account. If they validate the debt, you will have to pay off the dues. Though your property got foreclosed, you'll be liable for the mortgage payments.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
filed chapter 7 bankruptcy in 2009 and 2nd mortgage was charged off last year. received a letter today from collection agency wanting payments in lieu of foreclosure. what are my options? am i still obligated to pay a charged-off 2nd mortgage not reaffirmed in chapter 7?
I have just separated from my ex, not legally since I can't afford it. My name was on the 2nd mortgage with him. He recently filed Chapter 13 so he is off the hook. My questions is, what will happen to me. Should I start negotiating with the lender. I can't afford to pay them more than a few thousand which I can borrow from my family. What are my options?
You should inform the collection agency that the mortgage was included in your bankruptcy filing and that it has been discharged. You should let them know that you're not personally liable for paying off the dues any further.
My wife and I had 2 mortgages on our house when we went through a divorce. She stayed in the house trying to sell it. After 1.5 years she moved out and stopped paying (she also filed for bankruptcy) and the 1st mort foreclosed and was sold at sheriff's sale. The bank bought it for $317K and principle balance on 1st was $272K so that account was closed and I recieved a 1099-A on the 1st. The 2nd mort shows charged off on my credit report and I have not recieved a 1099. Can they come after me since my co-borrower filed for bankruptcy? If I get a 1099-C do I pro-rate?
As your co-owner filed bankruptcy, you will be liable for the mortgage payments if your name is mentioned on the mortgage docs.
If the PMI paid off to the bank our second mortgage, they will try to collect the balance. But can they ask for any interest on it?
I mean they are NOT a lenders. They should not ask for any interest on the remaining balance to collect, because they are allowed to collect only what they paid off under the insurance claim.
Is that right?
Thanks!
I mean they are NOT a lenders. They should not ask for any interest on the remaining balance to collect, because they are allowed to collect only what they paid off under the insurance claim.
Is that right?
Thanks!
Hi Diandmv,
The insurance company can come after you in order to collect the money from you. But I don't think they will be able to collect any taxes from you.
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The insurance company can come after you in order to collect the money from you. But I don't think they will be able to collect any taxes from you.
Thanks
I've been discharged from Chapter7 bankruptcy. I have a 2nd mortgage that has been foreclosed. I've read that once the 2nd forecloses, they send me to collections and then I pay a smaller amount than originally owed to the collections agency. Is this true? or what exactly happens. I modified my first and want to stay in this house so I am up to date with my first mortgage. The house is worth less than half of what I owe on the first. Please help. :cry:
Welcome Guest,
If the bankruptcy filing has been discharged, then you're not personally liable for paying the second mortgage though they send the account to collections.
If the bankruptcy filing has been discharged, then you're not personally liable for paying the second mortgage though they send the account to collections.
Thank you for answers. If I'm not liable to paying even if it goes to collections. What happens next? Will I get sued?
Hi Guest,
The collection agency or the mortgage lender cannot sue you for a discharged debt.
Thanks
The collection agency or the mortgage lender cannot sue you for a discharged debt.
Thanks