Posted on: 20th Mar, 2008 03:11 am
if you're behind on your mortgage, and there aren't any alternatives available to help you get out of the problem, you'll have to decide between foreclosure and bankruptcy chapter 13.
when to file chapter 13 and why
when you have to decide upon foreclosure vs bankruptcy, the first thing to ask yourself is whether you'd like to keep the house. if you're keen on keeping the house, filing for chapter13 makes sense. this helps you to pay off all or part of the mortgage, especially the amount by which you're behind on the loan. the payoff period in chapter 13 is quite short, that is within 3-5 years. however, you'll have to go through credit counseling session within 6 months prior to the date of filing bankruptcy. then you'll have to pass through the means test which confirms whether you're eligible for chapter 13.
more about chapter 13
when you file for chapter 13, you must create a repayment plan and submit it with your petition. the court appointed trustee will then review the repayment plan with your attorney and your creditors. the trustee will then negotiate with your attorney and lender if any alterations to the repayment plan are needed.
once your bankruptcy petition has been filed, your lender is barred from suing you in foreclosure during the bankruptcy proceeding and for at least 30 days after your case has been closed.
the question of foreclosing at the end of the 3-5 year period doesn't arise if you have cleared the debt and are able to continue paying down the outstanding balance. however, you will have to wait 1-2 years after your bankruptcy case has been finalized to try for a refinance.
once your bankruptcy petition has been filed, your lender is barred from suing you in foreclosure during the bankruptcy proceeding and for at least 30 days after your case has been closed.
the question of foreclosing at the end of the 3-5 year period doesn't arise if you have cleared the debt and are able to continue paying down the outstanding balance. however, you will have to wait 1-2 years after your bankruptcy case has been finalized to try for a refinance.
foreclosure vs bankruptcy chapter 13
chapter 13 shows you've tried to clear debts instead of avoiding them, and this has a more positive impact on your credit report than foreclosure does. however, if you fail to reorganize your debts and catch up with the payments, the bank is likely to foreclose after your bankruptcy, and then you'll have both bankruptcy and foreclosure on your credit. so, you shouldn't miss any payments under the chapter 13 plan or the court will dismiss your case and then you'll have no option but to go through a foreclosure.
another positive aspect of chapter 13 is that it helps you keep your home. but when you end up in foreclosure, you may lose the house and if the house doesn't sell for the total amount of the loan, the lender will file a deficiency judgment. this will be reported on your credit report and is likely to affect your credit.
there are tax issues involved with deficiencies. if the lender forgives the deficiency you will have to report the forgiven amount on your federal income taxes. however, even though you report that the deficiency was forgiven, does not mean you will have to pay taxes on it. as of 2009, the irs does not require you to pay income tax on money forgiven due to a foreclosure.
another positive aspect of chapter 13 is that it helps you keep your home. but when you end up in foreclosure, you may lose the house and if the house doesn't sell for the total amount of the loan, the lender will file a deficiency judgment. this will be reported on your credit report and is likely to affect your credit.
there are tax issues involved with deficiencies. if the lender forgives the deficiency you will have to report the forgiven amount on your federal income taxes. however, even though you report that the deficiency was forgiven, does not mean you will have to pay taxes on it. as of 2009, the irs does not require you to pay income tax on money forgiven due to a foreclosure.
credit effects - foreclosure vs bankruptcy
once you file bankruptcy, the creditor/lender can no longer sue you to collect on a debt until the it has been discharged. once it has been discharged, you can rebuild your credit in 2 years. by the time you get served with the summons for foreclosure, your credit score has already taken a hit. by the time your lender takes possession of your home after the sheriff's sale, you will be facing at least another 5 years of rebuilding your credit.
bankruptcy stays on your report for 7 years, but it doesn't affect your credit rating after the initial hit. the best thing is, since you get an automatic stay from collection activities after you file, your credit score will freeze until the bankruptcy process is complete. so, it's better to have a 650 score with bankruptcy instead of a 480 score and a foreclosure.
bankruptcy is an option that will help you to avoid foreclosure. but when it comes to deciding on foreclosure vs bankruptcy, you have to decide which option will work better in your particular situation. so, the best thing to do is to contact your lender and start to negotiate a loan modification as soon as you realize you cannot afford your current mortgage payments any longer.
bankruptcy stays on your report for 7 years, but it doesn't affect your credit rating after the initial hit. the best thing is, since you get an automatic stay from collection activities after you file, your credit score will freeze until the bankruptcy process is complete. so, it's better to have a 650 score with bankruptcy instead of a 480 score and a foreclosure.
bankruptcy is an option that will help you to avoid foreclosure. but when it comes to deciding on foreclosure vs bankruptcy, you have to decide which option will work better in your particular situation. so, the best thing to do is to contact your lender and start to negotiate a loan modification as soon as you realize you cannot afford your current mortgage payments any longer.
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We were trying to settle our debt in chapter 13 and keep the house and only report our debt. After we did the math, we are still below what we need to live. I am wondering if we can include our house in the chapter 13 bankruptsy plan. We already asked if we could do chapter 7 but we were told that my partner makes too much income to do that. Can you please clarify?
Hi anonymous!
Welcome to forums!
You can include your property and mortgage in Chapter 13. Depending upon your financial situation, the lender would give you a payment plan to pay off the loan.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Welcome to forums!
You can include your property and mortgage in Chapter 13. Depending upon your financial situation, the lender would give you a payment plan to pay off the loan.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
i have a mortgage on the 1st loan for 100,000 and a 2nd for 25,000 paying out 1500 a month . my monthly income is 3200. i have 2 car payments along with 12000 in credit cards . we have no money to eat. my credit is very bad with a score of 460 . the moblehome and property is only worth about 35,000 due to water damage ( that we could not afford to repair )
I want to forfeit the house but don't know what to do . can you help me ?
I want to forfeit the house but don't know what to do . can you help me ?
well, wayne, a lawyer won't help unless you can get some free legal aid. you need to speak with your lender and discuss this. clearly you'll need your car...if you give up the home do you have a place to go to live? unless your income is rising soon, you look to be in a dire position.
i think the key right now is housing and what you'll do once you vacate the current home.
i think the key right now is housing and what you'll do once you vacate the current home.
this was me:
Well, Wayne, a lawyer won't help unless you can get some free legal aid. You need to speak with your lender and discuss this. Clearly you'll need your car...if you give up the home do you have a place to go to live? Unless your income is rising soon, you look to be in a dire position.
i think the key right now is housing and what you'll do once you vacate the current home.
Well, Wayne, a lawyer won't help unless you can get some free legal aid. You need to speak with your lender and discuss this. Clearly you'll need your car...if you give up the home do you have a place to go to live? Unless your income is rising soon, you look to be in a dire position.
i think the key right now is housing and what you'll do once you vacate the current home.
I can get the money to file bankrupt , but I was wondering if this would be the right way to go ?
Hi wayne,
Rather than filing bankruptcy, you should contact your lender and check out if he can give you options to pay off your mortgage in an affordable manner. If you've defaulted on your mortgage dues, then you can apply for a loan modification with your lender. If your lender modifies your mortgage, then you will get an affordable payment plan to pay off the loan.
Rather than filing bankruptcy, you should contact your lender and check out if he can give you options to pay off your mortgage in an affordable manner. If you've defaulted on your mortgage dues, then you can apply for a loan modification with your lender. If your lender modifies your mortgage, then you will get an affordable payment plan to pay off the loan.
Hi Jay,
You have mentioned that you applied for short sale. I would suggest you to have some patience and wait for some time to find out whether or not your request will be accepted. If your accept is rejected, then you can think about filing bankruptcy.
Thanks
You have mentioned that you applied for short sale. I would suggest you to have some patience and wait for some time to find out whether or not your request will be accepted. If your accept is rejected, then you can think about filing bankruptcy.
Thanks
From a credit point of view which seems to make the most sense? Either way you are initially going to get hammered but doesn't a BK make more sense since you would be starting with clean slate? Foreclosure would show up under both the legal line and the debt line and you would get hit with a double whammy right? I understand BK stays on your credit for 10 years vs. 7 with a foreclosure but re-establishing credit would seem like the better way to go initially with the BK. I'm torn between which direction to go ugh...
Hi coach!
Welcome to forums!
If you want to get rid of all your debts and want to start afresh, then it would a better option to go for bankruptcy. You can contact a bankruptcy attorney and he will help you in deciding which chapter of bankruptcy filing is best suited for you.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Welcome to forums!
If you want to get rid of all your debts and want to start afresh, then it would a better option to go for bankruptcy. You can contact a bankruptcy attorney and he will help you in deciding which chapter of bankruptcy filing is best suited for you.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
i live in calif. and i'am filing bankruptcy and my mom died and left me and my sister her house and both of our names are on the deed but still owe the mortage and the my sistet was name the trustee of the will . will i have to claim this as property?
Hi lindsy,
As your name is on the property deed, you are one of the owners of the property. Thus, you will be able to claim a portion of that property.
Take care.
As your name is on the property deed, you are one of the owners of the property. Thus, you will be able to claim a portion of that property.
Take care.
Similar situation, bought a home , moved in 4 days later septic nightmare, called County Water for help and they informed us that the homes septic was never approved by the county, but the Town gave the sellers a Certificate anyways. We were a VA loan, and got the home as my hubby is a 170% disabled vet, who was suppose to get a SAH Grant, and Hisa Grant to renovate the home for his needs. Now we can not get any grants , as the septic is not approved, and we have no money left as we put all into the closing costs. We have been paying bills in Florida too, as my hubby had a stroke in 08, after neck surgery, and we could not go back to the boat.. I have called , written and no relief on our situation. Lawyers know we have a lawsuit, as the town should not have done this, but we can't afford legal fees to fight this. Oh yes, the builder is big with the town, and they all looked the other way as this was his sister's home he built. Can we not ask the mortgage company to go after these people. We will have to move out soon, as we have to keep getting pumped out every 3 weeks.
can I file bk13 in my late husband name if he is on the deed of the house? What are my otions in order to svae the house. I just was discharge from BK7 this Month May 2010. Would I be able to assume the loan?
Thanks!
Thanks!