Posted on: 20th Mar, 2008 03:11 am
if you're behind on your mortgage, and there aren't any alternatives available to help you get out of the problem, you'll have to decide between foreclosure and bankruptcy chapter 13.
when to file chapter 13 and why
when you have to decide upon foreclosure vs bankruptcy, the first thing to ask yourself is whether you'd like to keep the house. if you're keen on keeping the house, filing for chapter13 makes sense. this helps you to pay off all or part of the mortgage, especially the amount by which you're behind on the loan. the payoff period in chapter 13 is quite short, that is within 3-5 years. however, you'll have to go through credit counseling session within 6 months prior to the date of filing bankruptcy. then you'll have to pass through the means test which confirms whether you're eligible for chapter 13.
more about chapter 13
when you file for chapter 13, you must create a repayment plan and submit it with your petition. the court appointed trustee will then review the repayment plan with your attorney and your creditors. the trustee will then negotiate with your attorney and lender if any alterations to the repayment plan are needed.
once your bankruptcy petition has been filed, your lender is barred from suing you in foreclosure during the bankruptcy proceeding and for at least 30 days after your case has been closed.
the question of foreclosing at the end of the 3-5 year period doesn't arise if you have cleared the debt and are able to continue paying down the outstanding balance. however, you will have to wait 1-2 years after your bankruptcy case has been finalized to try for a refinance.
once your bankruptcy petition has been filed, your lender is barred from suing you in foreclosure during the bankruptcy proceeding and for at least 30 days after your case has been closed.
the question of foreclosing at the end of the 3-5 year period doesn't arise if you have cleared the debt and are able to continue paying down the outstanding balance. however, you will have to wait 1-2 years after your bankruptcy case has been finalized to try for a refinance.
foreclosure vs bankruptcy chapter 13
chapter 13 shows you've tried to clear debts instead of avoiding them, and this has a more positive impact on your credit report than foreclosure does. however, if you fail to reorganize your debts and catch up with the payments, the bank is likely to foreclose after your bankruptcy, and then you'll have both bankruptcy and foreclosure on your credit. so, you shouldn't miss any payments under the chapter 13 plan or the court will dismiss your case and then you'll have no option but to go through a foreclosure.
another positive aspect of chapter 13 is that it helps you keep your home. but when you end up in foreclosure, you may lose the house and if the house doesn't sell for the total amount of the loan, the lender will file a deficiency judgment. this will be reported on your credit report and is likely to affect your credit.
there are tax issues involved with deficiencies. if the lender forgives the deficiency you will have to report the forgiven amount on your federal income taxes. however, even though you report that the deficiency was forgiven, does not mean you will have to pay taxes on it. as of 2009, the irs does not require you to pay income tax on money forgiven due to a foreclosure.
another positive aspect of chapter 13 is that it helps you keep your home. but when you end up in foreclosure, you may lose the house and if the house doesn't sell for the total amount of the loan, the lender will file a deficiency judgment. this will be reported on your credit report and is likely to affect your credit.
there are tax issues involved with deficiencies. if the lender forgives the deficiency you will have to report the forgiven amount on your federal income taxes. however, even though you report that the deficiency was forgiven, does not mean you will have to pay taxes on it. as of 2009, the irs does not require you to pay income tax on money forgiven due to a foreclosure.
credit effects - foreclosure vs bankruptcy
once you file bankruptcy, the creditor/lender can no longer sue you to collect on a debt until the it has been discharged. once it has been discharged, you can rebuild your credit in 2 years. by the time you get served with the summons for foreclosure, your credit score has already taken a hit. by the time your lender takes possession of your home after the sheriff's sale, you will be facing at least another 5 years of rebuilding your credit.
bankruptcy stays on your report for 7 years, but it doesn't affect your credit rating after the initial hit. the best thing is, since you get an automatic stay from collection activities after you file, your credit score will freeze until the bankruptcy process is complete. so, it's better to have a 650 score with bankruptcy instead of a 480 score and a foreclosure.
bankruptcy is an option that will help you to avoid foreclosure. but when it comes to deciding on foreclosure vs bankruptcy, you have to decide which option will work better in your particular situation. so, the best thing to do is to contact your lender and start to negotiate a loan modification as soon as you realize you cannot afford your current mortgage payments any longer.
bankruptcy stays on your report for 7 years, but it doesn't affect your credit rating after the initial hit. the best thing is, since you get an automatic stay from collection activities after you file, your credit score will freeze until the bankruptcy process is complete. so, it's better to have a 650 score with bankruptcy instead of a 480 score and a foreclosure.
bankruptcy is an option that will help you to avoid foreclosure. but when it comes to deciding on foreclosure vs bankruptcy, you have to decide which option will work better in your particular situation. so, the best thing to do is to contact your lender and start to negotiate a loan modification as soon as you realize you cannot afford your current mortgage payments any longer.
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Hi mm!
Welcome to forums!
You won't be able to file bankruptcy in the name of your deceased husband though his name is mentioned on the deed. you will have to file an affidavit of heirship at the county recorder's office and transfer it in your name. Once the property is transferred in your name, you may be able to assume the loan. However, it will be the lender's discretion whether or not he will let you assume the loan as you had filed for bankruptcy.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Welcome to forums!
You won't be able to file bankruptcy in the name of your deceased husband though his name is mentioned on the deed. you will have to file an affidavit of heirship at the county recorder's office and transfer it in your name. Once the property is transferred in your name, you may be able to assume the loan. However, it will be the lender's discretion whether or not he will let you assume the loan as you had filed for bankruptcy.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Hi everyone. I was wondering if you filed Ch7 received a discharge, If your property is foreclosed on after the BKC are you safe from getting a deficiency judgment?
Hi ALynn!
Welcome to forums!
If you haven't reaffirmed your mortgage while you were in bankruptcy, then the lender will not be able to come after you for the deficient balance resulting from the sale.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Welcome to forums!
If you haven't reaffirmed your mortgage while you were in bankruptcy, then the lender will not be able to come after you for the deficient balance resulting from the sale.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
In the crash our house lost $150k in value. We are behind on payments and are considering letting it go back to the bank. But, if we have to pay taxes on the $150-$200K, we can not afford that either, we would be living in our car. Are we better off declaring bankruptcy? Would that forgive the tax liability? Has the tax liability forgiveness bill of 2007 expired? I see conflicting information. We are not 100% on keeping the house. HELP!
As you want to get rid of the property, it is better to apply for a deed in lieu of foreclosure. You will be able to sell off the property and won't be liable for the deficient balance even. Also, the Mortgage Debt Relief Act is still in vogue and you won't be liable for paying the taxes for the forgiven debt.
hello...
I have a client that I am advising on strategies and solutions to use to better his credit history. Unfortunately, like many people he wants a FAST fix for a problem its taken him years to create.
I've told him this will take at least 6 months though there are some things he can do to see positive changes withing 30 to 45 days...
But he has contracted with a company that provides pre-constructed homes in the FL area. They've poured the foundation and are ready for a walk-thru to close...But he doesn't have the scores he needs and they are all looking at me for answers...
Is there anything I can advise them to do besides what I have been saying, "Sorry, it's a process and it takes time."
He, his wife and children will lose this house they love so if I don't pull a rabbit out of my hat--but I'm fresh out of magic.
Any ideas?
(I fully understan dif there are none....It's just good to have a place to vent--)
I have a client that I am advising on strategies and solutions to use to better his credit history. Unfortunately, like many people he wants a FAST fix for a problem its taken him years to create.
I've told him this will take at least 6 months though there are some things he can do to see positive changes withing 30 to 45 days...
But he has contracted with a company that provides pre-constructed homes in the FL area. They've poured the foundation and are ready for a walk-thru to close...But he doesn't have the scores he needs and they are all looking at me for answers...
Is there anything I can advise them to do besides what I have been saying, "Sorry, it's a process and it takes time."
He, his wife and children will lose this house they love so if I don't pull a rabbit out of my hat--but I'm fresh out of magic.
Any ideas?
(I fully understan dif there are none....It's just good to have a place to vent--)
Hi!
Welcome to forums!
With a low credit score, it would not be possible for your client to get a mortgage to buy the said property. Your client will have to wait for some time and get his credit scores improved. Once his scores get improved, he can qualify for loans.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
Welcome to forums!
With a low credit score, it would not be possible for your client to get a mortgage to buy the said property. Your client will have to wait for some time and get his credit scores improved. Once his scores get improved, he can qualify for loans.
Feel free to ask if you've further queries.
Sussane
This is one of the best post i have seen. I didn't know much about bankruptcy before. But this sure will help me in doing my business good. I must thank the person who has posted it.
We filed chapetr 7 bankruptcy and we included our house in the bankruptcy. We were cleared in Dec yet the bank has still done nothing with the house. We have moved out of the house and I just finally turned off the water & PG&E but can I stop the insurance? Are we still legally the owners. I want to be done with it and move on but we had Countrywide and now it transfered to BofA. What do I do??
Hi Sportsmom,
Have you surrendered the property to the lender? If not, then you would still be considered as the owner of the property. You should formally surrender the property to the lender and ask them to sell it off in order to get rid of it. Once you surrender the property, then you may stop the insurance.
Take care.
Have you surrendered the property to the lender? If not, then you would still be considered as the owner of the property. You should formally surrender the property to the lender and ask them to sell it off in order to get rid of it. Once you surrender the property, then you may stop the insurance.
Take care.
If you want to save the properties, you can accept the loan and pay off regularly. After confirming the loan, it must be personally liable for mortgage payments. However, if you do not confirm the loan, are not liable to pay. Lender closes the property and collect taxes.
I filed for a Chap 13 and included my home, car and credit cards - I wanted to know if I could consider taking back my home back - I haven't live there for a year and it's going through Foreclosure but the bankrupcy courts have contacted the mortgage company from my understanding. How would this work since I am considering keeping my home - the paperwork is suppose to be finalized by the end of this week... would I still be able to save the home? even if I havn't lived there in a year.
Hi mbv,
Chapter 13 will help you in reorganizing your debts. You will be able to save your home though it is included in your bankruptcy filing. The lender will give you a payment plan depending upon your financial situation. If you pay off the dues as per the payment plan, you would be able to save the property.
Chapter 13 will help you in reorganizing your debts. You will be able to save your home though it is included in your bankruptcy filing. The lender will give you a payment plan depending upon your financial situation. If you pay off the dues as per the payment plan, you would be able to save the property.
We bought a house before the other one sold. Now we want to move back to the first house because it is affordable while the new house isn't. Can you file bankruptcy on just one mortgage and nothing else?
hi guest!
welcome to forums!
rather than filing bankruptcy, you can contact your lender and apply for a deed in lieu of foreclosure on that property. this will not only help you in getting rid of the property but you won't be liable for paying the balance dues resulting from the property sale.
feel free to ask if you've further queries.
sussane
welcome to forums!
rather than filing bankruptcy, you can contact your lender and apply for a deed in lieu of foreclosure on that property. this will not only help you in getting rid of the property but you won't be liable for paying the balance dues resulting from the property sale.
feel free to ask if you've further queries.
sussane