Posted on: 20th Mar, 2008 03:11 am
if you're behind on your mortgage, and there aren't any alternatives available to help you get out of the problem, you'll have to decide between foreclosure and bankruptcy chapter 13.
when to file chapter 13 and why
when you have to decide upon foreclosure vs bankruptcy, the first thing to ask yourself is whether you'd like to keep the house. if you're keen on keeping the house, filing for chapter13 makes sense. this helps you to pay off all or part of the mortgage, especially the amount by which you're behind on the loan. the payoff period in chapter 13 is quite short, that is within 3-5 years. however, you'll have to go through credit counseling session within 6 months prior to the date of filing bankruptcy. then you'll have to pass through the means test which confirms whether you're eligible for chapter 13.
more about chapter 13
when you file for chapter 13, you must create a repayment plan and submit it with your petition. the court appointed trustee will then review the repayment plan with your attorney and your creditors. the trustee will then negotiate with your attorney and lender if any alterations to the repayment plan are needed.
once your bankruptcy petition has been filed, your lender is barred from suing you in foreclosure during the bankruptcy proceeding and for at least 30 days after your case has been closed.
the question of foreclosing at the end of the 3-5 year period doesn't arise if you have cleared the debt and are able to continue paying down the outstanding balance. however, you will have to wait 1-2 years after your bankruptcy case has been finalized to try for a refinance.
once your bankruptcy petition has been filed, your lender is barred from suing you in foreclosure during the bankruptcy proceeding and for at least 30 days after your case has been closed.
the question of foreclosing at the end of the 3-5 year period doesn't arise if you have cleared the debt and are able to continue paying down the outstanding balance. however, you will have to wait 1-2 years after your bankruptcy case has been finalized to try for a refinance.
foreclosure vs bankruptcy chapter 13
chapter 13 shows you've tried to clear debts instead of avoiding them, and this has a more positive impact on your credit report than foreclosure does. however, if you fail to reorganize your debts and catch up with the payments, the bank is likely to foreclose after your bankruptcy, and then you'll have both bankruptcy and foreclosure on your credit. so, you shouldn't miss any payments under the chapter 13 plan or the court will dismiss your case and then you'll have no option but to go through a foreclosure.
another positive aspect of chapter 13 is that it helps you keep your home. but when you end up in foreclosure, you may lose the house and if the house doesn't sell for the total amount of the loan, the lender will file a deficiency judgment. this will be reported on your credit report and is likely to affect your credit.
there are tax issues involved with deficiencies. if the lender forgives the deficiency you will have to report the forgiven amount on your federal income taxes. however, even though you report that the deficiency was forgiven, does not mean you will have to pay taxes on it. as of 2009, the irs does not require you to pay income tax on money forgiven due to a foreclosure.
another positive aspect of chapter 13 is that it helps you keep your home. but when you end up in foreclosure, you may lose the house and if the house doesn't sell for the total amount of the loan, the lender will file a deficiency judgment. this will be reported on your credit report and is likely to affect your credit.
there are tax issues involved with deficiencies. if the lender forgives the deficiency you will have to report the forgiven amount on your federal income taxes. however, even though you report that the deficiency was forgiven, does not mean you will have to pay taxes on it. as of 2009, the irs does not require you to pay income tax on money forgiven due to a foreclosure.
credit effects - foreclosure vs bankruptcy
once you file bankruptcy, the creditor/lender can no longer sue you to collect on a debt until the it has been discharged. once it has been discharged, you can rebuild your credit in 2 years. by the time you get served with the summons for foreclosure, your credit score has already taken a hit. by the time your lender takes possession of your home after the sheriff's sale, you will be facing at least another 5 years of rebuilding your credit.
bankruptcy stays on your report for 7 years, but it doesn't affect your credit rating after the initial hit. the best thing is, since you get an automatic stay from collection activities after you file, your credit score will freeze until the bankruptcy process is complete. so, it's better to have a 650 score with bankruptcy instead of a 480 score and a foreclosure.
bankruptcy is an option that will help you to avoid foreclosure. but when it comes to deciding on foreclosure vs bankruptcy, you have to decide which option will work better in your particular situation. so, the best thing to do is to contact your lender and start to negotiate a loan modification as soon as you realize you cannot afford your current mortgage payments any longer.
bankruptcy stays on your report for 7 years, but it doesn't affect your credit rating after the initial hit. the best thing is, since you get an automatic stay from collection activities after you file, your credit score will freeze until the bankruptcy process is complete. so, it's better to have a 650 score with bankruptcy instead of a 480 score and a foreclosure.
bankruptcy is an option that will help you to avoid foreclosure. but when it comes to deciding on foreclosure vs bankruptcy, you have to decide which option will work better in your particular situation. so, the best thing to do is to contact your lender and start to negotiate a loan modification as soon as you realize you cannot afford your current mortgage payments any longer.
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how is it viewed if there is a shortsale and a bankrupcy on your credit?
Welcome Guest,
Both short sale and bankruptcy will be considered as a negative item on your credit report. Both of them will remain in your credit report for the next 7 years and will also reduce your credit score by several points.
Both short sale and bankruptcy will be considered as a negative item on your credit report. Both of them will remain in your credit report for the next 7 years and will also reduce your credit score by several points.
We have relocated to So Cal due to my current job situation, so we must sell our home short in Nor Cal. I can't afford to pay my rent and the mortgage? What should my option be? Forclosure or bankruptcy?
Any help would be appreciated.
Any help would be appreciated.
Hi DQ,
You can contact your lender in North Carolina and apply for a deed in lieu of foreclosure. This is a better option compared to a foreclosure or filing bankruptcy. If the lender accepts your request for a deed in lieu of foreclosure, you won't be liable for paying the deficient balance resulting from the sale of the property.
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You can contact your lender in North Carolina and apply for a deed in lieu of foreclosure. This is a better option compared to a foreclosure or filing bankruptcy. If the lender accepts your request for a deed in lieu of foreclosure, you won't be liable for paying the deficient balance resulting from the sale of the property.
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i wonder if applying for a "deed in lieu of foreclosure" is a fast process. i wish i knew about this before my sister filed for her chapter 7 bankruptcy. thanks
My house was purchased in 2007 before the state decided to reduce our pay by 15%. Now we are unable to make our mort payments. There are no other loans attached to this home which is our primary residence. I have tried and tried to work with our mort company, only to be told that I was put on the bottom of the list. Now we are facing forclosure (notice of trustee's sale received). I have contacted then andthey won't return my calls or emails... Now what? Short sale? throw my hands up? and walk away or BK.
Hi cheryl,
You should contact your lender and apply for a deed in lieu of foreclosure. This will help you in getting rid of the property and you won't be liable for the deficient balance resulting from the property sale. However, it will have a negative affect on your credit score as it will get reduced by 250 points.
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You should contact your lender and apply for a deed in lieu of foreclosure. This will help you in getting rid of the property and you won't be liable for the deficient balance resulting from the property sale. However, it will have a negative affect on your credit score as it will get reduced by 250 points.
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I own a house with a roommate and we are no longer living together. Neither one of us can afford the monthly payments alone and we have tried selling with no luck. We can't refiance due to owing more on the house than what it is worth. What is the best solution, bankruptcy or foreclosure?
Kotten, bankruptcy will relieve you of all of your debts if that's what you want. However, since you only cite the mortgage as an issue, it would seem that your best bet is to seek a short sale. You can discuss it with the lender, of course, and get a realtor who can help you assess what the current value might be. If you simply stop paying, of course, the lender will foreclose and you'll suffer the consequences of a damaged credit report.
Best bet? Hard to say, but I'd opt for selling it on a short sale if possible.
Best bet? Hard to say, but I'd opt for selling it on a short sale if possible.
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I applied for Chapter 13 and the bank's lawyers doubled the amount I owed on missed payments by adding attorney fees & court costs, then the bank paid property taxes and insurance and added that on, effectively DOUBLING the monthly mortgage bill, which in addition to a trustee payment was impossible to manage. Don't fall victim to this scam, there is no relief with Chapter 13 unless you are making good money - in which case you would not need to file bankruptcy in the first place. My bankruptcy was dismissed and I am losing my house, which by the way I put my entire life savings down on. Bank does not care, Lawyers (mine and theirs) don't care. The "Making Homes Affordable Plan"? ha ha ha it's a joke! They rejected me because "I made too much money". No relief, just punishment from everyone. What is the point?
I applied for Chapter 13 and the bank's lawyers doubled the amount I owed on missed payments by adding attorney fees & court costs, then the bank paid property taxes and insurance and added that on, effectively DOUBLING the monthly mortgage bill, which in addition to a trustee payment was impossible to manage. Don't fall victim to this scam, there is no relief with Chapter 13 unless you are making good money - in which case you would not need to file bankruptcy in the first place. My bankruptcy was dismissed and I am losing my house, which by the way I put my entire life savings down on. Bank does not care, Lawyers (mine and theirs) don't care. The "Making Homes Affordable Plan"? ha ha ha it's a joke! They rejected me because "I made too much money". No relief, just punishment from everyone. What is the point?
I bought this house through a mortage co. lived in it for 8yrs.stayed current on all pymts. Like a fool, i got married, and 4months into marriage my husband beat me & hospitalized me. of course I divoriced him, but he ran me through the court system for 1 1/2 years, which due to time loss at work,physical, mental, & financial distress, i lost my business & job.i was forced to move from the area to escape further abuse from exhusband.I have had the house for sale for several months,with no prospects to purshase.I can no longer make the payment.What should i do?
Welcome kitty,
As you're facing severe financial hardship, you should contact your lender immediately and apply for a deed in lieu of foreclosure. If the lender is convinced by your financial hardship, he will consider your request and you'll be able to sell off the property.
As you're facing severe financial hardship, you should contact your lender immediately and apply for a deed in lieu of foreclosure. If the lender is convinced by your financial hardship, he will consider your request and you'll be able to sell off the property.
Kitty, you've survived so much, more than many others would have even attempted to tolerate.
I have to agree, I guess, with Adonis, that a deed in lieu might save you some aggravation, and perhaps provide a quicker end to the train wreck.
I have to agree, I guess, with Adonis, that a deed in lieu might save you some aggravation, and perhaps provide a quicker end to the train wreck.
If the bank files an 1111b on your home, is there any way around this. I was told that a cram down of the principle to current market value is not going to happen, IS THERE ANY WAY AROUND THIS?
In my opinion, you should get in touch with a bankruptcy attorney and take his opinion in this matter.